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Toy Run 2009 - A resounding flop!

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9:57 am
November 8, 2009


Rob D

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It didn't look good when Rachel and I were the first to arrive at 08:45. Thankfully we were soon joined by Allan, with a couple of others on his tail including Phil and Fiona. Once again Phil did PMC proud with his bike and his outfit, although he didn't go to the extremes of last year with the bike. Unfortunately his was the only bike to be done up and as he was exempt from winning, Rachel in her elf outfit won the prize for “Best Dressed Bike”. Doesn't do much for Rachel's reputation that does it!!

Anyway, a grand total of seven bikes, (Come on PMC - 200 members and only seven turn up!), set off for Belle Vue. and we were among the first to arrive, but the car park soon started to fill up with an estimated 300-400 bikes and scooters. 

We set off pretty much on time, but that's when it started to go pear-shaped. I'd been told that the police weren't supporting the ride and as such it was illegal for anyone to block junctions or go through red lights. I'd also been told that as Deansgate was full of roadworks the route would head down Hyde Road, along Brunswick Street, right onto Oxford Road, down to the Palace and left onto Whitworth Street to get onto Chester Road. I checked this out as a friend of mine was riding on L plates and someone had warned him about going onto the Mancunian Way.

How surprised was I when, after having to stop at traffic lights, pedestrian crossings, and Ardwick Green roundabout, we were all filtered onto the Mancunian Way. This proved to be a bit hairy as car drivers were trying to filter from the slip roads and others were trying to exit from the Mancunian Way with their usual attitude to bikers.

Again, on Chester Road and for the rest of the route, we had to endure stopping at several sets of lights, but the worst was yet to come. None of the roundabouts at the Trafford Centre were marshalled to point us in the right direction, and I was convinced we should have gone off at an earlier roundabout. Had the “ride” not been so disjointed and we'd all been able to stick together I wouldn't have had any qualms, but we were in a group of just 20 or so bikes. Thankfully we were going in the right direction, but one poor guy on a scooter was almost totalled by a car driver who just cut across in front of him as we were heading into the Trafford Centre. Thankfully he managed to save himself and the car driver suffered the wrath of the other riders around him.

But that shouldn't have been allowed or able to happen in the first place! Yell

I don't know whether it's the fault of the Police, the Sally Army, or those supposed to be marshalling, or all three, but rest assured, if this is the standard to be expected for next year's Toy Run, I for one am not going to risk life and limb doing it. Good cause or not!

I just hope things can be improved, because it is a worthwhile event and a lot of people put a lot of hard work and time into organising it, (who deserve thanking), and a lot more people get pleasure in taking part as well as those watching it.

Rob D.

4:37 pm
November 8, 2009


Ian R

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Hi Rob and thanks again for taking Rachel.

I came across this article concerning the Toy Run. I guess he was running with blue lights which is rather stupid and looking at his “qualifications” should know better. Judging by the other comments the marshalling was pretty poor.

Paul C  did comment on this at the October meeting, seems a shame that the Organisers can't get their act together.


Ian R


HELP!! Hi guys I am in need of your support, I am the guy who leads all the charity events or most of them in the North West area, I have the Ex-Police bike with instructor on it (I am DSA instructor and Medic)those of you who attended the Toy Run may have seen me lead the bikes out towards Manchester, as soon as we reached the first roundabout the two Police Officers that had been chatting and eating and drinking free of charge for two hours before the event were waiting in the Petrol station, they beckoned me to pull into the station and it was quite obvious I was leading the group but they said they didn’t care!!! they booked me and gave me a summons they also threatened to impound my bike and wanted me to take off my Hi-viz jacket!! now those who know me will be aware I have always worked with the Police and been told to use my lights while they stopped traffic and I put Marshals on junctions, I have always kept speeds to around 20MPH with two way radio with to my rear gunner with camera. So where’s the consistancy? all Police escorts I have done were glad of the help and support so why not this one?? is there a hidden agenda going on here because I offer my services to charity free? if I get points on my licence I lose my Job! so I am please asking anyone for any constructive advice.
Peter

6:49 pm
November 8, 2009


Gary Robinson

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It's such a pity the day turned out as it did.

For once the organisation at the start point could not be faulted, we were guided into our own designated parking areas, registration was quick and simple and this year it didn't take 20 minutes to get a bacon buttie and a brew.

When we arrived we rode in past a collection of the local dibble, 3 cars and 4 bikes I think. The question has to be asked if they were never intending on leading the marshalling of this event, why the hell did they turn up only to disappear half an hour before the start.

The rumours circulating were that they demanded £1000 to do it or they were off, this is a charity event for underprivaliged kids for christs sake, they don't raise a fortune from events like this and every penny counts.

The person who made this decision should hang his head in shame because I can guarentee at least half the people who had to endure the absolute shambles of this year won't be attending next year and the only ones to suffer will be the ones it's in aid of.

Gary R. 

10:04 pm
November 8, 2009


Rob D

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Jesus! I didn't realise Plod were being such t***s! These guys weren't from North Wales were they? Although, I do agree with Ian, the guy should know better. But it still doesn't detract from the fact that Plod were sitting around drinking the free tea etc. And insisting that he took off his Hi-Vis! I think a posting on the MCN site tomorrow is called for - see if they're willing to kick up a fuss.

Rob D.

10:34 am
November 10, 2009


maccmanx

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From reading the above I am glad I couldn't go.  It clashed with the morning after a long standing social engagment, I was in no fit state to ride, I have been on the last 5 or 6 Toy Runs and marshalled at three and enjoyed them all.  I doubt if I would have enjoyed this one and if things don't change I won't go again.  From what I read the Police attitude stinks and seems to be very anti charity and very anti bike, very different from every other Toy Run.  A letter to the Chief Constable asking for clarification might be helpful

David G

12:42 pm
November 10, 2009


Grimm

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Thanks to all PMC members who did attend this years Toy Run. I still get a lot of interest from people at work who want to sponsor me and I also get a lot of fun out of the event which is usually the last ride out with the club before winter stops play. The marshalling was virtually none existent this year with a guy on a bull horn asking for people to volunteer to marshal about 20minuts before the start.

The ride was very disjointed due to the traffic lights splitting us up and at one point Fiona, Rudolf and I were all on our own wondering if we had gone the wrong way.

There has to be police support to close the roads for this type of parade otherwise it just gets more and more dangerous. There definately feels like someone has a hidden agenda to run it into the ground.

The sadest part of the day was my Santa beard dying under a car wheel after falling off on the A34. The best part was definately watching the knob-ed in the vectra having his car surrounded by 10 very angry scooter pilots after he cut across 3 lanes and nearly wiped out one of their mates! It looked ( and sounded due to the two strokes) like a swarm of angry wasps around the guy who just poked their nest!

Never….never….try to cut up a biker when he has 400 other bikers right behind him!


Lets keep the faith ( pun intended) and see if we can improve the event for next year.


Grimm 

2:48 pm
November 10, 2009


Grimm

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Just had this message passed on by the sally army:


Dear Bikers

On behalf of everyone at The Salvation Army Central North Division may I say a very sincere word of thanks  to all who participated in the 2009 Toy Run Appeal.  It was a magnificent display of around 600 bikers arriving at the Trafford Centre with  your generous gifts of toys and financial donations  enabling children across the region to have a happier Christmas.

The toys are currently being allocated to many Salvation Army centres across the North West and the total monies raised to date is in the region of £3,000.

Our heartfelt thanks to all who made the day possible and successful.

Kind regards and may your own Christmas be happy and peaceful.

Yvonne Field


9:43 pm
November 10, 2009


Rachel

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I agree that if the police refuse to lend their support in future the Toy Run is going to become a complete shambles and they will lose an awful lot of support.  The few that did turn up from PMC have rightly been put off by the lack of organisation.  I don't understand why the police are so reluctant to help.

Having said that, it was still an enjoyable day in most ways; lots of people to wave at, and a turnout of 600 bikes according to the Sally Army email!  Here's hoping next year is better for everyone.


p.s. These sums are getting harder- I got 1+1 today!


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